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Saturday, August 18, 2007

Hate Groups are Alive and Well on Planet Earth (and USA

Granny and I have posted a number of times on hate crimes, hate groups and anti-hate crime bills. In these stressful times, hate groups are growing in number and in membership. Recruiters often target young people so it is important to teach children not to hate other people. Some hate groups require recruits to commit an act of violence against targeted victims or even to kill them.

Trial testimony in the infamous James Byrd dragging murder stated that the crime was to gain respect for a new hate group being formed and that murdering a black man was an initiation rite for an alleged recruit. The Matthew Shepard torture-murder was a gay hate crime committed by individuals, not a group although some hate groups target gays. The KKK advocates killing gays and certain minorities.

Although I am tolerant of most differences in our society, I am an opinionated old woman and strongly intolerant of other differences. One of my Anti- opinions is directed at hate groups and those persons who harbor racial, religious or gender bias, prejudice and hatred and who manifest their hatreds via attacks. They are entitled to their opinions but not to act on them. (Hmm. Does that mean I am anti-me because I attack Fundies in print? Or, are my articles attacks or exposes?)

The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that hate groups have increased 40% since 2000. Various hate groups actively proselytize to gain new recruits; they especially target young people who are less experienced in life and more easily victimized by rhetoric and brain washing.

Most USA hate groups' beliefs are based on a core conviction of white (Caucasoid) superiority/supremacy. (Most do not consider Hispanics "white" although I was acquainted with one group whose leader was an American Indian. Go figure). Many consider people of non-Christian religions as enemies but some include Catholics. They hate Jews and all minorities, especially people with darker skins. They consider whites who couple with minorities as "race traitors" and target them and any offspring ("abominations") for attack. Most regard Hitler as a hero and embrace Nazi philosophy. Their illegal activities include vicious beatings, abductions with violence, murders, destruction of property, intimidation, terror tactics, and disruptive marches. Some operate under a religious theme, pray in Jesus' name, and believe they are doing God's work by protecting the white race. Since Jesus was a Jew, they excuse their persecution of Jews by labeling them "Christ-killers". They believe certain groups should be targeted for death (see continuing post below this one).

There are Black hate groups and Christian hate groups (beside the notorious and vile Fred Phelps gang - photos at bottom of that page) as well as a number of others. I think that some are not prejudiced - they just hate everybody. Not all hate groups advocate violence.


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These haters attacked a teen because he had dark skin. He was an American citizen of Panamanian Indian descent. In July I posted on a particularly vicious attack of a teen aged Hispanic-American at Teen Hate Crime Victim Commits Suicide . Included in that post is a photo of 2 of my great-grandchildren whose mother is Hispanic-American and their father is my grandson. Granny posts photos of her biracial great- grand children on her personal blog. I also have a biracial great-grandson and a 2nd cousin who is biracial. Granny has a gay son and one of my 2nd cousins is a lesbian. Each of these family members risk being targets of the haters.

As far as color is concerned, due to our Cherokee Indian ancestors, many members of my extended family bear considerable melanin in our skins and with prolonged exposure to the sun, we tan very darkly. In my younger years when I engaged in a lot of outdoor activities, I tanned as dark as any Indian ever hoped to be and was often mistaken for a Hispanic. In Italy I was mistaken for a dark Italian and in an Arab country I was mistaken for an Arab woman. Skin color is no indicator of race in our melting pot society, but some haters would target us because we are part Cherokee (members of a dark skinned race).

To check on hate groups in your state, click on the red hate map in the left sidebar above. Below the map is a list of different kinds of hate groups. Click on one for a brief description of their ideology and a list of their names.
COMMENTS:
ThomasLB said...

I think there are some people who enjoy the adrenaline rush of being angry. Righteous indignation gives them a rush. They get high on hate.

Just like with any other drug, getting that high becomes a compulsion. If Fred Phelps woke up tomorrow in a world with no homosexuals, I guarantee he'd find something new to rage against.

One of the downsides to the internet is that it makes it easier for these damaged people to find each other.

Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:50:00 AM

Worried American said...

Fred also rages against our government in general (not just BushCo), the military, Sweden, and a number of other things. He's a hater and hates everyone, I think, including himself most of all - which self hate he cannot bear so directs it outward onto others.

Saturday, August 18, 2007 7:47:00 AM

The Future Was Yesterday said...

Psychologically, the "mob mentality" enters minds when a group exists, where the individual may well not do the things they do, if by themselves. I question the formation of "hate crime" laws sometimes, not because we don't need them, but because to me, they seem to sometimes pass "blame" off to racism or some other social malady, instead of all crimes being viewed as equally repugnant. It's my personal opinion, although I can't point to anything to support this, that the publication of "hate crimes" encourages those so disposed or inclined, to "copy cat." A crime is a crime is a crime. It seems by creating another sub category, we've somehow isolated those crimes from others, and I'm not sure that's good.

Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:25:00 AM

WA: You make some interesting points, FWY. In the James Byrd dragging-murder, the dork who was trying to start a new Hate Group was looking for "respect" from future recruits, members, associates or the public (as a really bad-a$$ group?) and allegedly stated that the attention garnered by the crime "would make history" and that they would be "heroes". I find that type of mind set to be incomprehensible. It is heroic and historical and an example of toughness to drag to death a drunken, handicapped, helpless man pitted against 3 big, strong, muscular men? I have a very different opinion! It is tragic and disgusting that in prison and to other hate groups these men ARE regarded as heroes and it DOES encourage others of like mindness. Look at the photo of one of the men who beat and kicked a little teenager with steel toed boots because the boy had dark skin; he is a handsome, well built man and yet his mind is twisted and perverted. Heroes? Vile, yellow bellied cowardly bullies to me.
LET'S TALK said...

It breaks my heart when I see or hear how we can treat each other on this earth. We all only have a short time here and we all should learn to share, help and love one another.

Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:30:00 AM

Jesus was a great teacher and tried to lead people to be civilized and live together in peace and harmony. He taught, "love one another" and "love your neighbor as you love yourself" and "be kind to one another". Whether or not a person is religious, I believe these lessons are applicable to all.
GDAEman said...

Hi Granny,

Just checking in. Drove from San Antonio to Ft. Worth TX this summer. In one cross-road town there was a Koffee Kup Kafe (KKK). Wasn't an accident. In the last few years, they dropped Kafe.

Hwy 6 And Hwy 281, Hico, TX

Hope you're doing OK.

Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:05:00 PM

Worried, here: Hello, GDAEman, it is good to hear from you again. There are many "red-necks" in that area; not to say that all rednecks are haters. There are some rednecks in my family but none are haters. But it is true that many people in that subculture do belong to hate groups.
Granny has family problems at present and is not posting on our political blog for a time. To visit her, see http://rocrebelgranny.blogspot.com or email her.

Daniel said...

I hate Hate Groups!

It seems easier for most humans to hate rather than love. Our potential nobility too often never gets sunlight and therefore it doesn't grow.

There are those who, out of self-interest and greed, ensure that such sunlight always remains hidden.

Cheers!

Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:01:00 PM

WA: Greetings, Daniel. You are right. Unfortunately, many adults think that they are not overtly biased against other people but they reveal it in small remarks, voice tones, facial expressions and attitudes. Even more unfortunately, children pick up on these small things very quickly and learn bias and prejudice which can ripen into hate or make them vulnerable to succumb to hateful rhetoric.
Sometimes Saintly Nick said...

I’ve been a member of the Southern Poverty Law Center for more years than I can remember. As they have investigated and reported on hate groups, especially the KKK, I have gotten the feeling that the personal motivation of the members of those groups in to “fit in.” That need seems to be universal among us humans; however, the less self-actualized one is, the greater the need to be part of a group. It’s a bloody shame that for these folks to be part of one group means one must attack another.

Monday, August 20, 2007 4:19:00 AM

WA: I dislike certain INDIVIDUALS because they are dorks, not for their race, creed or gender. For instance, I strongly dislike Fred Phelps and haters in general but I do not believe that I actually HATE anyone and would not visit violence against them. However, some might benefit from a swift kick to the pants. :-)
enigma4ever said...

I will be honest I think Hate Groups like the NAZI and the aryan nation ones etc...I think they are more dangerous and powerful in this country than any terra org that Gonzo has identified...

Monday, August 20, 2007 4:31:00 PM

WA: On an individual basis they certainly are. Most of the time they attack one or a few of the hated group, but have been guilty of destroying churches and businesses also. Some of the milita groups are haters also, and the ones hating/rebelling against our government (sometimes with fair reason) have at least in one instance been guilty of mass murder as in the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah building. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing )
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9 Comments:

  • At Saturday, August 18, 2007 5:50:00 AM , Blogger ThomasLB said...

    I think there are some people who enjoy the adrenaline rush of being angry. Righteous indignation gives them a rush. They get high on hate.

    Just like with any other drug, getting that high becomes a compulsion. If Fred Phelps woke up tomorrow in a world with no homosexuals, I guarantee he'd find something new to rage against.

    One of the downsides to the internet is that it makes it easier for these damaged people to find each other.

     
  • At Saturday, August 18, 2007 7:47:00 AM , Blogger Worried American said...

    Fred also rages against our government in general (not just BushCo), the military, Sweden, and a number of other things. He's a hater and hates everyone, I think, including himself most of all - which self hate he cannot bear so directs it outward onto others.

     
  • At Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:25:00 AM , Blogger The Future Was Yesterday said...

    Psychologically, the "mob mentality" enters minds when a group exists, where the individual may well not do the things they do, if by themselves. I question the formation of "hate crime" laws sometimes, not because we don't need them, but because to me, they seem to sometimes pass "blame" off to racism or some other social malady, instead of all crimes being viewed as equally repugnant. It's my personal opinion, although I can't point to anything to support this, that the publication of "hate crimes" encourages those so disposed or inclined, to "copy cat." A crime is a crime is a crime. It seems by creating another sub category, we've somehow isolated those crimes from others, and I'm not sure that's good.

     
  • At Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:25:00 AM , Blogger The Future Was Yesterday said...

    Psychologically, the "mob mentality" enters minds when a group exists, where the individual may well not do the things they do, if by themselves. I question the formation of "hate crime" laws sometimes, not because we don't need them, but because to me, they seem to sometimes pass "blame" off to racism or some other social malady, instead of all crimes being viewed as equally repugnant. It's my personal opinion, although I can't point to anything to support this, that the publication of "hate crimes" encourages those so disposed or inclined, to "copy cat." A crime is a crime is a crime. It seems by creating another sub category, we've somehow isolated those crimes from others, and I'm not sure that's good.

     
  • At Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:30:00 AM , Blogger LET'S TALK said...

    It breaks my heart when I see or hear how we can treat each other on this earth. We all only have a short time here and we all should learn to share, help and love one another.

     
  • At Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:05:00 PM , Blogger GDAEman said...

    Hi Granny,

    Just checking in. Drove from San Antonio to Ft. Worth TX this summer. In one cross-road town there was a Koffee Kup Kafe (KKK). Wasn't an accident. In the last few years, they dropped Kafe.

    Hwy 6 And Hwy 281, Hico, TX

    Hope you're doing OK.

     
  • At Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:01:00 PM , Blogger Daniel said...

    I hate Hate Groups!

    It seems easier for most humans to hate rather than love. Our potential nobility too often never gets sunlight and therefore it doesn't grow.

    There are those who, out of self-interest and greed, ensure that such sunlight always remains hidden.

    Cheers!

     
  • At Monday, August 20, 2007 4:19:00 AM , Blogger Sometimes Saintly Nick said...

    I’ve been a member of the Southern Poverty Law Center for more years than I can remember. As they have investigated and reported on hate groups, especially the KKK, I have gotten the feeling that the personal motivation of the members of those groups in to “fit in.” That need seems to be universal among us humans; however, the less self-actualized one is, the greater the need to be part of a group. It’s a bloody shame that for these folks to be part of one group means one must attack another.

     
  • At Monday, August 20, 2007 4:31:00 PM , Blogger enigma4ever said...

    I will be honest I think Hate Groups like the NAZI and the aryan nation ones etc...I think they are more dangerous and powerful in this country than any terra org that Gonzo has identified...

     

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